6.3. Manipulating referents: among, together with, -some

The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

me

ME

x1 is/are among [sumti following me]

me'u

MEhU

elidible terminator for ME

jo'u

JOI

connective: together with; sumti union

mei

MOI

x1 is/are [number before mei] in number; x1 are [number before mei] of x2

In the usual interpretation of Lojban, sumti expressions refer to one or more individuals, meaning one or more things that can be counted using whole numbers. For example, mi, me, refers to the speaker, and do, you, to whoever is being spoken to, be they one or many. mi'o refers to both the speakers and the listeners. Uncountable things are also shoehorned into this scheme, and so is generic reference: lo djacu refers to one or more quantities of water, or to water in general, which in Lojban behaves much like an individual.

There are a few basic operators that can be used to examine sumti. me (of selma'o ME) followed by a sumti and its elidible terminator me'u (of selma'o MEhU) form a selbri with the structure:

x1 is one of [sumti]; x1 are among [sumti]

Example 6.13. 

mimemi'o[me'u].idomemi'o[me'u]
Iam-among-[us].Youare-among-[us]

Two sumti with jo'u (of selma'o JOI) between them form a single sumti composed of all the individuals in the two source sumti: mi jo'u do is equivalent to mi'o. me and jo'u always operate on the level of individuals, without adding any additional structure to the sumti; this makes me reflexive:

Example 6.14. 

mimemi'ojo'uti[me'u]
Iam among [usalong-withthis here]

is true because mi me mi'o and mi'o me mi'o jo'u ti is true. Any sumti is among itself: ko'a me ko'a is true for any value of ko'a.

The individuals a sumti is composed of can be counted. A number followed by mei (of selma'o MEI) act as a selbri with the structure:

x_1 are [number] in number

Example 6.15. 

mipa mei.idore mei.imi'oci mei
Iam an individual.Youare two in number.Weare three in number

With a second sumti supplied to [number] mei, the first sumti must also be among (me) the second sumti for the assertion to be true. Providing a second sumti also allows for the use of numbers that only make sense where there is a total amount:

Example 6.16. 

mi'oso'e meilose cinri
Weare a majority ofthose whoare interested